Kierberg scheduled time

[intallonabile]

i noticed that for freight trains coming toward Erfstadt (diesel line) in timetable window passing time at kierberg become the time at wich train enters in block section 352 so very similar at passing time at HK. I dont remember if the same thing happens for passenger trains without stop at Kierberg. Please is possible for Signalsoft tieam to verify

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Post scriptum

for train arriving from Erfstadt when they are near automatic railroad crossing there is a beep similar to telephone beep ma not shown in conversation window. Is this a train announce ?

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Diego

[TjoeTjoe]

i noticed that for freight trains coming toward Erfstadt (diesel line) in timetable window passing time at kierberg become the time at wich train enters in block section 352 so very similar at passing time at HK. I dont remember if the same thing happens for passenger trains without stop at Kierberg. Please is possible for Signalsoft tieam to verify

Diego,

just for my understanding, are we talking about the extra timetable, in which freight traffic is routed via Erfstadt (available in the downloads folder).

Well, if so, then my guess this is just caused by the fact that for those train the passing-trough time is only defined for Hürth itself, not Kierberg

If the last had been done, you probably would have seen a better 'line' in you graphic overview

for train arriving from Erfstadt when they are near automatic railroad crossing there is a beep similar to telephone beep ma not shown in conversation window. Is this a train announce ?

I tried to figure what could cause that short ring, trying to understand how these specific level crossings intend to work and when they get in alarm.

The only thing I can think of is that it just shortly gets into alarm, as it might not have closed in time. Just a matter of a few seconds between time to be closed and being closed. Not sure though

Erwin

[intallonabile]

Diego,

just for my understanding, are we talking about the extra timetable, in which freight traffic is routed via Erfstadt (available in the downloads folder).

Well, if so, then my guess this is just caused by the fact that for those train the passing-trough time is only defined for Hürth itself, not Kierberg

If the last had been done, you probably would have seen a better 'line' in you graphic overview

ciao Erwin. I dont use this timetable but my personal timetable and i introduce in this for freight trains a passing time for Kierberg as for passengers trains.

I tried to figure what could cause that short ring, trying to understand how these specific level crossings intend to work and when they get in alarm.

The only thing I can think of is that it just shortly gets into alarm, as it might not have closed in time. Just a matter of a few seconds between time to be closed and being closed. Not sure though

Erwin

OK so you dont think it is a train annuonce ?

Ciao Diego

[TjoeTjoe]

ciao Erwin. I dont use this timetable but my personal timetable and i introduce in this for freight trains a passing time for Kierberg as for passengers trains.

Could you send me your mdb via e-mail (you have got my address ;-) ). Then I will have a look at it.

OK so you dont think it is a train annuonce ?

Hmm, now you say. That could be it as well. The other lines do let a bell ring

Will look at in more detail that as well

Erwin

[TjoeTjoe]

i noticed that for freight trains coming toward Erfstadt (diesel line) in timetable window passing time at kierberg become the time at wich train enters in block section 352 so very similar at passing time at HK. I dont remember if the same thing happens for passenger trains without stop at Kierberg. Please is possible for Signalsoft tieam to verify

Allright, I have loaded your mdb and it's not a bug, not a fault in de mdb, but just how it works as far as I can see.

The things is that the entire track Hurth to Kierberg (and vica versa) is one track section of 5000m.

The Train Overview window records the times as follows:

1. if a arrival and departure time is defined, the arrival time is recorded once the train is stopped on the defined track section; departure time when it starts moving again

2. if only a departure time has been defined, thus pass-through, the time is recorded as soon as the train enters the track section

as Kierberg platform are defined to be located along the 5000m track section, but it is not exactly defined where, you will see that ...

... for trains passing-through Kierberg coming from Erfstadt the time registrated is more or less happening as soon as the train enters that last 5000m block, which is approximately where Kierberg is located (just behind the dark signal symbol)

... for trains passing-through Kierberg coming from Hürth-Kaslscheuren the time registrated is more or less happening as soon as the train enters that last 5000m block, which is approximately just behind the last switch when leaving from KKAS.

Reason why you have not seen this in this or other simulations for other stations is, that in most cases these stations are located on track sections which are much shorter in length

So not a bug, just how it currently works. Unless Richard will introduce a GPS-module for determining the exact position of the train, I think for now it is something we have to live with.

BTW: I forgot to check the "short ringing of the bell". Last night, I was running three simulations at the time at some moments, so I shut down the speaker volume. Did not want to upset the lady with ringing bells and buzzers all the time So maybe some time later something will ring the bell for me

Erwin

Erwin

[intallonabile]

Ok is just as ai supposed !!

In real life signalling in Italy we have the some problem in some stations that must announce trains with microphone and audio systems for passengers in remote location controlled. In this case, when location has not a signal box a track circuits we put as for axle counters a mechanical train detector (in italian named "pedale") so the signaller in signal box office can announce train when train is near his stops. Italian law requires to signallers to announce also train without stopping on tracks. Fortunately this manual announce is now replaced by automatic announce because when traffic is high or there are some circulation problems the announce was made late or forgotten !!

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