Remagen and Bonn Bad Godesburg - Track Circuit Failures Won't Clear After Reset

[pblanksb]

In the Bonn Bad Godesburg sim, track circuits 60 and 43 at Neuer Weg, and on the opposite line track circuit 301 between Mehlem and Neuer Weg were all left showing occupied after the passage of trains. The track circuits were reset by the technician but are still showing occupied and I am unable to set routes. I have a similar problem in the Remagen sim with track circuit w4 just outside Remagen station.

I can't see any postings relateing to similar problems being experienced by anyone else so have I missed something vital? Any help would be much appreciated.

Regards,

Phil.

[TjoeTjoe]

I can't see any postings relateing to similar problems being experienced by anyone else so have I missed something vital? Any help would be much appreciated.

I am not sure about the possible solution, because it is really hard to reproduce such situations. My guess is that you have the chance of irregularities set to a certain value, causing "faulty" track occupation.

However, my guess is that the answer to your question can be found here : SignalWiki - Axle Counter Reset Button

The tracks you mention are equipped with axle counters, which can be recognized by the brown circle on the track buttons.

I do not think that the technician would have helped you much out there in the field. He might have fixed the axle counter device, but probably not reset the count logic

Erwin

[pblanksb]

Thanks for your reply Erwin.

I'd become so used to most of these sims being equipped with conventional track circuits I completely failed to notice that Bad Godesburg and Remagen are equipped with axle counters.

The resets in Bad Godesburg worked fine, but I was unable to do a reset in Remagen, however I think that this may be to do with having downloaded and installed a sim update between the failure occurring and then trying to clear it just now. I also noticed that where the failure occurred at Remagen there was no brown and white button, just a black one. That said, when I tried to reset using the Axle Counter reset button and the signal button at the entrance to the affected section, both buttons just came up with a red ring that wouldn't time out, leading me to believe that maybe it was someting to do with the update I'd just installed.

Anyway, at least I'm on the move again at Bad Godesburg and I started a new sim at Remagen.

Thanks again for your help Erwin.

Phil.

[TjoeTjoe]

Hi Phil,

The resets in Bad Godesburg worked fine, but I was unable to do a reset in Remagen, however I think that this may be to do with having downloaded and installed a sim update between the failure occurring and then trying to clear it just now.

Well, it is not recommended to load a sim-file, which has been saved in an older version of the simulation, even if it loads correctly in a newer version of the simulation.

At least it can not be supported, as there is the potential risk that you are loading old simulation parameters which can handled differently in the newer version.

I also noticed that where the failure occurred at Remagen there was no brown and white button, just a black one.

And that means that there are no axle counters installed for that track section. In other words, the track section is equipped with normal track circuits. So to get this one fixed you will need the technician.

The only thing I do not know is whether you have to send him out for a track circuit problem or a switch problem. The track section w4 suggests that it is a circuit related to a switch. I honestly do not know how the software deals with track circuit problems of switches. You could try to let him fix the switch in stead of sending him out for a track circuit issue. (if you still have the sim-file)

That said, when I tried to reset using the Axle Counter reset button and the signal button at the entrance to the affected section, both buttons just came up with a red ring that wouldn't time out, leading me to believe that maybe it was someting to do with the update I'd just installed.

No, not really. The combination Axle Counter Reset button together with the signal button is an incorrect operation. Therefor you will get the red circle.

See also : SignalWiki - Panel - Input Feedback

Axle counters can only be found at the switches and tracks. So if you see a brown circle on those items, then you know the particular section is equipped with axle counters.

For Remagen: there are only axle counters on the open lines between the stations (excl Oberwinter-Rolandseck), and the open line towards Brohl

Erwin

[pblanksb]

Hi Erwin,

Thank you for taking the time to provide me with further explanations to the issues I was having trouble with, in particular regarding running older sim files on an updated simulation. Very often when an update is installed you get a warning telling you that the older sim file won't work when you try to load it. Because of this I thought it was ok to run an older sim file if no warning was received. In future I won't install an update until I've finished running the sim I'm running at the time.

The next time I get a track circuit failure through a switch I'll call the technician to the TCF, but if that doesn't rectify the fault I'll call him to the switch and see if that works. In reality, he would attend to the TCF as a points failure doesn't normally cause a track circuit to illuminate (this would be indicated by the points flashing 'Out Of Correspondence') but for these sims I guess it depends on how the coding is written.

Thanks once again Erwin,

Phil.