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Hi everyone,

I am running the timetable supplied with the original sim download running from a sim start time of 0001 09 Oct 2013. It has worked without any issues until approx 0430 when one or two queries and questions arose as follows:-

1. Rabt Netz#5 (a light locomotive) movement order states "Stable your train in Fulda W123 on 270". What actually happens is the locomotive arrives on Track 270, reverses (no movement order for this) and then the driver calls up waiting for signal 270II. What is meant by "in fulda W123 on 270"? Should it not just say "Stable your train on Track 270"?

2. RAbt91354 light locomotive to stable on Track 260, arrives on Track 260, reverses then calls up ready for signal 260II?

Neither of these locomotives has any further orders, so why do they call up ready rather than becoming unstaffed?

3. Train 4542 calls up from Track 42, train has a movement order to attach to train 4503 in Fulda Track 1. Train 4503 is the 0515 departure to Frankfurt but there is no inward train to make train 4503. Also, train 4542 timetable shows it to originate from Neuhof at 1812, arriving Fulda Track 1 at 1822, so why does it call up at around 0445 with a movement order to attach to the imaginary train 4503?

Regards,

Phil.

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1. Rabt Netz#5 (a light locomotive) movement order states "Stable your train in Fulda W123 on 270". What actually happens is the locomotive arrives on Track 270, reverses (no movement order for this) and then the driver calls up waiting for signal 270II. What is meant by "in fulda W123 on 270"? Should it not just say "Stable your train on Track 270"?

Fulda Gbf (W 123) (FFU W)

http://railsignalling.org/signalwiki/index.php/Dispatching_in_Zentralstellwerk_Fulda#Fulda_Gbf_.28W_123.29_.28FFU_W.29

Fulda Gbf (FFU G)

http://railsignalling.org/signalwiki/index.php/Dispatching_in_Zentralstellwerk_Fulda#Fulda_Gbf_.28FFU_G.29

The W123 reflects a specific area on the panel. Note that the image associated to het W123 area is not very clear OR better it seems incomplete to me.

Tracks 347-350 plus open line tracks 352, 353, 337, 257 and 258, as well as tracks 259,260,270,178 are all part of this station area W123.

Anyway, it is normal that the instruction shows teh station area plus track name. Nothing strange on that part

2. RAbt91354 light locomotive to stable on Track 260, arrives on Track 260, reverses then calls up ready for signal 260II?

Neither of these locomotives has any further orders, so why do they call up ready rather than becoming unstaffed?

Did you by accident see the detail for the stabling of this train? i.e. Stable your train in Fulda W123 on track 260 ?

Anyway, it might miss a Movement order to do so here (can't check at the moment)

3. Train 4542 calls up from Track 42, train has a movement order to attach to train 4503 in Fulda Track 1. Train 4503 is the 0515 departure to Frankfurt but there is no inward train to make train 4503. Also, train 4542 timetable shows it to originate from Neuhof at 1812, arriving Fulda Track 1 at 1822, so why does it call up at around 0445 with a movement order to attach to the imaginary train 4503?

I see some similarities with this topic here : Kupplung RAbt4503 und 4542

In short: ther should be a Rabt4503 and 4542, which will together couple into 4503

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Hi Phil,

1. Rabt Netz#5 (a light locomotive) movement order states "Stable your train in Fulda W123 on 270". What actually happens is the locomotive arrives on Track 270, reverses (no movement order for this) and then the driver calls up waiting for signal 270II. What is meant by "in fulda W123 on 270"? Should it not just say "Stable your train on Track 270"?

when I ran the sim everything happened very well. So if the Rabt Netz#5 reverses automatically it seems to have lost its movement order to stable before coming to the respective track. Without movement order a train automatically reverses at the end of a dead end track.

2. RAbt91354 light locomotive to stable on Track 260, arrives on Track 260, reverses then calls up ready for signal 260II?

Neither of these locomotives has any further orders, so why do they call up ready rather than becoming unstaffed?

Same explanation as above.

You cannot see the movement order "stable your train on track xxx) written in the movement order window. But you can check, if the train still has this movement order by looking in the upper part of this window if there is still a "1" beside the number of the train/Rabt/etc. in the movement order window.

3. Train 4542 calls up from Track 42, train has a movement order to attach to train 4503 in Fulda Track 1. Train 4503 is the 0515 departure to Frankfurt but there is no inward train to make train 4503. Also, train 4542 timetable shows it to originate from Neuhof at 1812, arriving Fulda Track 1 at 1822, so why does it call up at around 0445 with a movement order to attach to the imaginary train 4503?

Train 4503 is real! If everything had been done as planned until this moment there should be a train 4503 waiting on track 1 for its mission when train 4542 calls up. (This train (4503) was a part of Lr 73639 arriving at Gbf 250 at 01:27 hrs and should already have moved to track 1 after uncoupling from the second part of 73639). So if you send 4542 to track 1 it will couple with the waiting train. The combined train is also called 4503. (If there is no train in track 1 look if track 250 is still occupied by one or two trains. One of it should be the RAbt 73639, the predecessor of 4503. If so, let it go to track 1 before 4542.) After coupling the drivers will leave and come back in time for departure.

Train 4542 had come from Neuhof the day before, had let the passengers get off on track 1 at 18:22 and then had moved to track 42 to wait there for this mission.

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Erwin, Helmut,

Many thanks for your replies.

I didn't realise locomotives/trains automatically reverse at the end of a dead end track.

Re train 4503:- I must have done something wrong with Lr 73639 and I cannot remember what, but I have nothing on track 250 now. I've just run another test sim starting at 0100 and I can see now it splits into two trains which then shunt to track 58 and track 1.

Regards,

Phil.

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Hi Phil,

maybe in the first case you ran the program without the last update. Then you had done erverything right, because in that version the train Lr 73639 had only one locomotive and 6 wagons. So it could not split as planned.

The newest version has also got a timetable update to solve this problem.

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Hi Helmut,

Yes, that is it! When I re-ran a test last night I thought something was different about Lr 73639 but couldn't think what it was. The old movement order also said to split into trains ??? and ??? On Gbf track 250. The current movement order now specifies shunt (RAbt) train numbers and those shunt trains then come up in the train information window.

I am now up to 0900hrs and with the help that you, Erwin and others have provided I am feeling much more confident with Fulda and I am enjoying it much more as a result. Thanks again to all of you who helped answer my questions.

Regards,

Phil.

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