Train Ready Lights Always On

[ZLA_JB]

Hello, I have an odd situation. According to what I have learned on Koln 2012, the yellow light next to the platform indicates the train is ready for departure. In Wurzburg this is always ilimunated in the direction the train is facing. Am I incorrect in my interpretation of the lights function or is this a bug?

[signalsoftRC]

it should be lit, if the movement is ready for departure AND facing the direction of the signal. 

[ZLA_JB]

Correct! However what I have in the picture above is that the indicator is lit whenever the track circuit is occupied, regardless of the trains status. Indeed on 019 the train is unstaffed for several hours, and on 021 and Rabt train has just left leaving wagons only, I doubt they are ready to continue  .

It seems the light illuminates as soon as the train could theoretically leave, even if the train will not be cleared for departure for hours. 

[Siemenswand]

What I know from real life is, that platform staff is actually activating this train-ready-to-start indicator with a key, asking the signalman for a route. So this indicator should actually be your "go" for the routesetting, which does not seem to work right here.

[ZLA_JB]

I have given it a bit of thought based on what I've noticed. From what I have seen the TRTS light does work as intended when the train arrives and departs without movement orders. However, it seems that if the train executes any movement orders in the station this action forces the indicator to activate, in this case the train on 019 had an order at some point much early to hand off the train to be stabled and as such illuminated after the train was "ready" to execute its first task, and since the signal was not released by the passage of a train the light stays.

I will give this some testing tonight and see if my theory holds. 

[signalsoftRC]

I think I found the spot where it goes wrong. Your indication with "having movement orders" is indeed the culprit. The issue was that JUST before it starts to do the movement order, it did set the departure time quickly (that's a thing I can't change without breaking another thing).... which triggered the light to be turned on... once on it stays on until the signal clears and comes to stop again.

 

with the next version it will be solved.

 

I need to solve another bug with the 0F0F0 indicators....

[signalsoftRC]

it's corrected in version 3.7.0.9 and available now.

[ZLA_JB]

Thanks for the update, I did write up a report confirming the effects as suspected although it appears to have never made it from my cell phone to the internet. In any event thanks for the help. I am trying to research the german forum to see if any other idiosyncrasies are bugs are my bias as an American who learned signalling from the English. 

[signalsoftRC]

oh, German way of signalling is EXTREMELY different from the North-American way of signalling. 

You have to dig in in:

• Overlap routes
• Flank protection (area!)
• difference between shunt and train routes
• Train numbering
• Automatic dispatching with steering numbers

just to mention a few...

 

I've got a Train Dispatcher Licence (Rail Traffic Controller as they call it here) in Canada... and I tell you... it's different.

 

What they barely know in Europe is "stacking of routes". I've only seen that in Hungary...