this signal has not an announce signal (Vorsignale) for signal N1. Is right ?

thanks for reply

Diego

Is there some signal expert to replicate to my question ?. In Italy we have some cases as this for not main track in advance at main signal. In this case (when the first signal has not aspect repeater for second signal this happen becase both become green in the same moment and is necessary first to open the second signal and after the first signal)

Diego

I haven had the chance to fully play with Sechtem till date, but I do have the following suggestion for you.

1. Set a route from just Sig A1 to Sig R6. What happens then? Does the Vorsig at A1 show double yellows?

2. Set a route from Sig A1 to Sig R6, and from Sig R6 to Sig N1? What happens now? Does Sig R6 show Kennlicht (so white) ?

3. Set a route from just Sig R6 to Sig N1? What happens now? Does Sig R6 actually show any form of Proceed aspect?

4. Set a route from Sig R6 to Sig N1, and from Sig N1 towards track 01 (-> Roisdorf)? Does Sig R6 show any form of Proceed aspect, and is Sig N1 switched off to Kennlicht (white)

If the answer to 4 is Yes, then the answer to your question is hidden in the fact that you are only allowed to set "long-exit" routes from Sig R6, or better, trains routes from R6 to N1 are not allowed.
And then yes, the Vorsig (distant) at R6 is not required there.

Additionally: if the result of Q4 is Yes, then the answer to question 3 should be No

Erwin

The answer at Q4 is negative. A1 has vorsignale for signal R6 and this seems normal. Signal R6 permits a route until signal N1 even if N1 remain at red. And when N1 open R6 dont give any announce of his aspect.

Good evening

Diego

There is a bug for route from signal a1 to signal n3. Both "vorsignale" w1 and w2 become green

Good evening

Diego

The answer at Q4 is negative. A1 has vorsignale for signal R6 and this seems normal. Signal R6 permits a route until signal N1 even if N1 remain at red. And when N1 open R6 dont give any announce of his aspect.

Had some time to have a look at this, and yes, I can confirm your findings.

Looking at the deep zoom pictures of the other simulations, it is even harder to find a clue whether this signal R6 should have a representation of a distant signal on the panel or not.

In other words, the distant at R6 is likely to be present along the real tracks itself, but there may be good reasons for not presenting it on the panel.

I can just hope that the SIgnalsoft team jumps into this discussion here, and give us some clue or "golden rule" telling when a distant signal is shown or not

Erwin

There is a bug for route from signal a1 to signal n3. Both "vorsignale" w1 and w2 become green

Tried this situation and can confirm this odd behavior. Will add it to the Bug tracker

But to me, there seems to be something else as well. I think that the distant signal near w1 should show a white lamp as well, as it is a Vorsignal repeater.

Erwin

Thanks Erwin for your patience.

Diego